Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 17, 2026noindex (thin pair)

OpenAI: GPT-4 vs Qwen3.8 27B benchmark

Name: OpenAI: GPT-4 vs Qwen3.8 27B AI benchmark comparison
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This page compares OpenAI: GPT-4 (OpenAI) and Qwen3.8 27B (Alibaba) using the latest snapshots we have as of Aug 17, 2026. Qwen3.8 27B wins on output price at $3.2/1M. Qwen3.8 27B has the larger context window (262k tokens). Every cell below is a dated snapshot from a named public source — we do not invent missing scores, and we do not run SWE-bench ourselves.

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OpenAI

OpenAI: GPT-4

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$60/1M out

Alibaba

Qwen3.8 27B

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop dated Aug 14 2026. Dense enough to self-host; not a frontier MoE.

27B DenseElo 1,398$3.1999999999999997/1M out

Model Lineage & Multi-Tier Derivatives

GPT-4 Series Family (4 models)

Compare vs Base (GPT-4o)

GPT-4o

OpenAI

Flagship Base

Elo

1335

Speed

110 tok/s

Price

$10.00 / 1M

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GPT-4o mini

OpenAI

4o Mini

Elo

1272

Speed

160 tok/s

Price

$0.60 / 1M

-63 Elo-94% cost1.5x speed

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GPT-4.5 Orion

OpenAI

Derivative

Elo

1540

Speed

60 tok/s

Price

$150.00 / 1M

+205 Elo+1400% cost0.5x speed

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OpenAI: GPT-4

OpenAI

Derivative

Elo

—

Speed

—

Price

$60.00 / 1M

+500% cost

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Category wins across intelligence, speed, and pricing efficiency.

OpenAI: GPT-4 (0)vsQwen3.8 27B (10)

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0W (0%)Overall: Qwen3.8 27BQwen3.8 27B: 10W (100%)

← OpenAI: GPT-4Qwen3.8 27B →

Qwen3.8 27B (5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Preference Elo

—vs1,398

Coding Elo

—vs1,422

SWE-bench

—vs58.8%

LiveBench

—vs60.6%

GPQA Diamond

—vs73.4%

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 5W

Qwen3.8 27B (2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Output speed

—vs152 tok/s

Time to first token

—vs140 ms

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 2W

Qwen3.8 27B (3/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Output price

$60/1Mvs$3.2/1M

Input price

$30/1Mvs$0.45/1M

Context window

8kvs262k

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 3W

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Percentile 0–100

Dimensional AdvantageQwen3.8 27B 6/6

Preference Elo

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Throughput Speed

No shared data

Token Price Efficiency

Qwen3.8 27B

$56.80/1M cheaper

Full Benchmark Score Matrix

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Elo

High is better

—

EloHigh is better

1,398

Code Elo

High is better

—

Code EloHigh is better

1,422

LiveBench

High is better

—

LiveBenchHigh is better

60.6%

SWE-bench

High is better

—

SWE-benchHigh is better

58.8%

GPQA

High is better

—

GPQAHigh is better

73.4%

TTFT

Low is better

—

TTFTLow is better

140 ms

Speed

High is better

—

SpeedHigh is better

152 tok/s

In $

Low is better

$30.00 / 1M

In $Low is better

$0.45 / 1M+6567%

Out $

Low is better

$60.00 / 1M

Out $Low is better

$3.20 / 1M+1775%

Context

High is better

ContextHigh is better

262k+3100%

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Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs in USD (US Dollar).

Save up to 97% with Qwen3.8 27B

Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo

Quick Presets:

Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out

RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)

OpenAI: GPT-4$1,950.00 / mo

In: $1,050Out: $900

Qwen3.8 27B$63.75 / mo

In: $15.75Out: $48

Estimated Cost Delta

Qwen3.8 27B is estimated to save $1,886.25/month ($22,635/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

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Qwen3.8 27B:Pick Qwen3.8 27B when you are optimizing output cost.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsinsufficient data

Need SWE-bench on both sides.

High-volume chatQwen3.8 27B

Lower output list price ($3.2/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient data

Need TTFT on both sides.

Long-document RAGQwen3.8 27B

Larger window (262k).

Screenshots / visionQwen3.8 27B

Qwen3.8 27B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target Workload	Recommended Pick	Evaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agents	insufficient data	Need SWE-bench on both sides.
High-volume chat	Qwen3.8 27B	Lower output list price ($3.2/1M).
Voice / low-latency UI	insufficient data	Need TTFT on both sides.
Long-document RAG	Qwen3.8 27B	Larger window (262k).
Screenshots / vision	Qwen3.8 27B	Qwen3.8 27B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

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launchAug 14, 2026

Qwen3.8 27B (Aug 14): dense enough to self-host, not a frontier MoE

Alibaba open-weight 27B drop. Local/open-weight lists should see it. It will not win frontier-agents.

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LIVE

OpenAI

OpenAI: GPT-4

Elo n/a

LiveBench—

SWE-bench—

Speed—

Output cost$60/1M

Alibaba

Qwen3.8 27B

Elo 1,398

LiveBench60.6%

SWE-bench58.8%

Speed152 tok/s

Output cost$3.2/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, OpenAI: GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 27B?: We do not have preference Elo for both models, so we do not declare an overall winner. Compare the metrics that exist.
Which is better at coding, OpenAI: GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 27B?: SWE-bench is missing for at least one model, so we do not rank coding from a single number.
Which is cheaper to run in production?: Qwen3.8 27B output tokens are $3.2/1M versus $60/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, OpenAI: GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 27B?: We do not have TTFT for both models.
Which has the larger context window?: Qwen3.8 27B accepts 262k tokens versus 8k.
Can I self-host either model?: Qwen3.8 27B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?: No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?: Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. OpenAI: GPT-4 and Qwen3.8 27B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

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Interactive Comparison Diagram

Matchup Breakdown

Tug-of-War Matchup Matrix

Category wins across intelligence, speed, and pricing efficiency.

OpenAI: GPT-4 (0)vsQwen3.8 27B (10)

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0W (0%)Overall: Qwen3.8 27BQwen3.8 27B: 10W (100%)

← OpenAI: GPT-4Qwen3.8 27B →

Qwen3.8 27B (5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Preference Elo

—vs1,398

Coding Elo

—vs1,422

SWE-bench

—vs58.8%

LiveBench

—vs60.6%

GPQA Diamond

—vs73.4%

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 5W

Qwen3.8 27B (2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Output speed

—vs152 tok/s

Time to first token

—vs140 ms

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 2W

Qwen3.8 27B (3/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Output price

$60/1Mvs$3.2/1M

Input price

$30/1Mvs$0.45/1M

Context window

8kvs262k

OpenAI: GPT-4: 0WQwen3.8 27B: 3W

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsinsufficient data

Need SWE-bench on both sides.

High-volume chatQwen3.8 27B

Lower output list price ($3.2/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient data

Need TTFT on both sides.

Long-document RAGQwen3.8 27B

Larger window (262k).

Screenshots / visionQwen3.8 27B

Qwen3.8 27B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target Workload	Recommended Pick	Evaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agents	insufficient data	Need SWE-bench on both sides.
High-volume chat	Qwen3.8 27B	Lower output list price ($3.2/1M).
Voice / low-latency UI	insufficient data	Need TTFT on both sides.
Long-document RAG	Qwen3.8 27B	Larger window (262k).
Screenshots / vision	Qwen3.8 27B	Qwen3.8 27B is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, OpenAI: GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 27B?

We do not have preference Elo for both models, so we do not declare an overall winner. Compare the metrics that exist.

Which is better at coding, OpenAI: GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 27B?

SWE-bench is missing for at least one model, so we do not rank coding from a single number.

Which is cheaper to run in production?

Qwen3.8 27B output tokens are $3.2/1M versus $60/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.

Which is faster, OpenAI: GPT-4 or Qwen3.8 27B?

We do not have TTFT for both models.

Which has the larger context window?

Qwen3.8 27B accepts 262k tokens versus 8k.

Can I self-host either model?

Qwen3.8 27B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.

Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?

No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.

What does preference Elo mean on this page?

Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. OpenAI: GPT-4 and Qwen3.8 27B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

GPT-4 Series Family (4 models)

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Qwen3.8 27B

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Qwen3.8 27B

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