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Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 16, 2026

GPT-4.5 Orion vs Qwen3 235B benchmark

This page compares GPT-4.5 Orion (OpenAI) and Qwen3 235B (Alibaba) using the latest snapshots we have as of Aug 16, 2026. On preference Elo, GPT-4.5 Orion is ahead by 100 points (1,540 vs 1,440; seed-bootstrap (Aug 1, 2026)). On SWE-bench coding, GPT-4.5 Orion resolves 71% versus 59.4% (seed-bootstrap (Aug 1, 2026)). Qwen3 235B streams faster (74 tok/s) while Qwen3 235B is the cheaper output token ($1.82/1M). Qwen3 235B has the larger context window (131k tokens). Every cell below is a dated snapshot from a named public source — we do not invent missing scores, and we do not run SWE-bench ourselves.

Quick answer

GPT-4.5 Orion vs Qwen3 235B is a dated snapshot, not a lab score. GPT-4.5 Orion leads preference Elo (1,540 vs 1,440). GPT-4.5 Orion leads SWE-bench coding. Qwen3 235B is the cheaper output token. Elo is crowd preference, not an exam. Pick the column that matches the job.
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OpenAI

GPT-4.5 Orion

OpenAI largest dense non-reasoning model with expansive world knowledge and reduced hallucinations.

Elo 1,540$150/1M out

Alibaba

Qwen3 235B

Open-weight Qwen3 mixture-of-experts.

Elo 1,440$1.8199999999999998/1M out

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Category wins across intelligence, speed, and pricing efficiency.

GPT-4.5 Orion (5)vsQwen3 235B (5)
GPT-4.5 Orion: 5W (50%)Overall: Even matchupQwen3 235B: 5W (50%)
← GPT-4.5 OrionQwen3 235B →
GPT-4.5 Orion (5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Preference Elo
1,540vs1,440
Coding Elo
1,520vs—
SWE-bench
71%vs59.4%
LiveBench
68.5%vs63.5%
GPQA Diamond
84%vs76.8%
GPT-4.5 Orion: 5WQwen3 235B: 0W
Qwen3 235B (2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Output speed
60 tok/svs74 tok/s
Time to first token
350 msvs320 ms
GPT-4.5 Orion: 0WQwen3 235B: 2W
Qwen3 235B (3/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Output price
$150/1Mvs$1.82/1M
Input price
$75/1Mvs$0.45/1M
Context window
128kvs131k
GPT-4.5 Orion: 0WQwen3 235B: 3W
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Each spoke is a skill. Farther from the center is better (0–100th percentile). Tap any dot to inspect details.

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Percentile 0–100
Dimensional AdvantageEven 3–3
Preference Elo

GPT-4.5 Orion

100 pts advantage

Throughput Speed

Qwen3 235B

14 tok/s faster

Price Efficiency

Qwen3 235B

$148.18/1M cheaper

Full Benchmark Score Matrix

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Elo
High is better
+7%1,540
EloHigh is better
1,440
Code Elo
High is better
1,520
Code EloHigh is better
—
LiveBench
High is better
+8%68.5%
LiveBenchHigh is better
63.5%
SWE-bench
High is better
+20%71%
SWE-benchHigh is better
59.4%
GPQA
High is better
+9%84%
GPQAHigh is better
76.8%
TTFT
Low is better
350 ms
TTFTLow is better
320 ms+9%
Speed
High is better
60 tok/s
SpeedHigh is better
74 tok/s+23%
In $
Low is better
$75/1M
In $Low is better
$0.45/1M+16384%
Out $
Low is better
$150/1M
Out $Low is better
$1.82/1M+8142%
Context
High is better
128k
ContextHigh is better
131k+2%
Interactive Simulator

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs based on published $/1M tokens.

Save up to 99% with Qwen3 235B
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
GPT-4.5 Orion$4,875.00 / mo
In: $2625.00Out: $2250.00
Qwen3 235B$43.22 / mo
In: $15.92Out: $27.30
Estimated Cost Delta

Qwen3 235B is estimated to save $4,831.78/month ($57,981/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

  • 1
    GPT-4.5 Orion:Pick GPT-4.5 Orion when repo-level coding accuracy is the constraint.
  • 2
    Qwen3 235B:Pick Qwen3 235B when you are optimizing output cost.
  • 3
    Qwen3 235B:Pick Qwen3 235B when time-to-first-token matters more than peak Elo.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsGPT-4.5 Orion

Higher SWE-bench (71%).

High-volume chatQwen3 235B

Lower output list price ($1.82/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIQwen3 235B

Lower TTFT (320 ms).

Long-document RAGQwen3 235B

Larger window (131k).

Screenshots / visionGPT-4.5 Orion

GPT-4.5 Orion is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsGPT-4.5 OrionHigher SWE-bench (71%).
High-volume chatQwen3 235BLower output list price ($1.82/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIQwen3 235BLower TTFT (320 ms).
Long-document RAGQwen3 235BLarger window (131k).
Screenshots / visionGPT-4.5 OrionGPT-4.5 Orion is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Related Editorial Dispatches & Benchmark Notes

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launchSep 20, 2025

Qwen3 235B: the open MoE Qwen, not the Max SKU

Sep 2025 open-weight mixture-of-experts. Self-host path. Don’t confuse it with Qwen 3 Max.

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OpenAI

GPT-4.5 Orion

Elo 1,540
LiveBench68.5%
SWE-bench71%
Speed60 tok/s
Output cost$150/1M
Alibaba

Qwen3 235B

Elo 1,440
LiveBench63.5%
SWE-bench59.4%
Speed74 tok/s
Output cost$1.82/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen3 235B?
GPT-4.5 Orion has the higher preference Elo in our latest snapshot (1,540). “Better” still depends on coding, price, and latency — see the table.
Which is better at coding, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen3 235B?
GPT-4.5 Orion leads SWE-bench at 71% vs 59.4%. SWE-bench is one harness, not your repo.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
Qwen3 235B output tokens are $1.82/1M versus $150/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen3 235B?
Qwen3 235B has the lower time-to-first-token (320 ms vs 350 ms). Tokens/sec is a separate column if you care about long completions.
Which has the larger context window?
Qwen3 235B accepts 131k tokens versus 128k.
Can I self-host either model?
Qwen3 235B is marked open-weights in our catalog. The other side is a closed API. Check the provider license before you ship weights.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. GPT-4.5 Orion and Qwen3 235B Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

Related news

  • launch · Sep 20, 2025

    Qwen3 235B: the open MoE Qwen, not the Max SKU

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