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Pairwise benchmark snapshot · Aug 16, 2026noindex (thin pair)

GPT-4.5 Orion vs Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking benchmark

This page compares GPT-4.5 Orion (OpenAI) and Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking (Alibaba) using the latest snapshots we have as of Aug 16, 2026. Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking wins on output price at $2.4/1M. Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking has the larger context window (262k tokens). Every cell below is a dated snapshot from a named public source — we do not invent missing scores, and we do not run SWE-bench ourselves.

Quick answer

GPT-4.5 Orion vs Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking is a dated snapshot, not a lab score. Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking is the cheaper output token. Elo is crowd preference, not an exam. Pick the column that matches the job.
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OpenAI

GPT-4.5 Orion

OpenAI largest dense non-reasoning model with expansive world knowledge and reduced hallucinations.

Elo 1,540$150/1M out

Alibaba

Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking

Auto-discovered from OpenRouter (qwen/qwen3-vl-30b-a3b-thinking). Preview until a second source matches.

$2.4/1M out

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Matchup Breakdown

Tug-of-War Matchup Matrix

Category wins across intelligence, speed, and pricing efficiency.

GPT-4.5 Orion (7)vsQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking (3)
GPT-4.5 Orion: 7W (70%)Overall: GPT-4.5 OrionQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking: 3W (30%)
← GPT-4.5 OrionQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking →
GPT-4.5 Orion (5/5)

Intelligence & Reasoning

Preference Elo, Coding proficiency, SWE-bench & LiveBench accuracy

Preference Elo
1,540vs—
Coding Elo
1,520vs—
SWE-bench
71%vs—
LiveBench
68.5%vs—
GPQA Diamond
84%vs—
GPT-4.5 Orion: 5WQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking: 0W
GPT-4.5 Orion (2/2)

Speed & Latency

Generation throughput and time to first token responsiveness

Output speed
60 tok/svs—
Time to first token
350 msvs—
GPT-4.5 Orion: 2WQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking: 0W
Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking (3/3)

Pricing & Capacity

Cost per million tokens and max context window length

Output price
$150/1Mvs$2.4/1M
Input price
$75/1Mvs$0.2/1M
Context window
128kvs262k
GPT-4.5 Orion: 0WQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking: 3W
Capability Matchup Radar

Multi-Dimensional Capability Radar

Each spoke is a skill. Farther from the center is better (0–100th percentile). Tap any dot to inspect details.

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Percentile 0–100
Dimensional AdvantageGPT-4.5 Orion 4/6
Preference Elo

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Throughput Speed

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Price Efficiency

Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking

$147.60/1M cheaper

Full Benchmark Score Matrix

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Elo
High is better
1,540
EloHigh is better
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Code Elo
High is better
1,520
Code EloHigh is better
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LiveBench
High is better
68.5%
LiveBenchHigh is better
—
SWE-bench
High is better
71%
SWE-benchHigh is better
—
GPQA
High is better
84%
GPQAHigh is better
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TTFT
Low is better
350 ms
TTFTLow is better
—
Speed
High is better
60 tok/s
SpeedHigh is better
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In $
Low is better
$75/1M
In $Low is better
$0.2/1M+37400%
Out $
Low is better
$150/1M
Out $Low is better
$2.4/1M+6150%
Context
High is better
128k
ContextHigh is better
262k+105%
Interactive Simulator

Workload Cost & Savings Calculator

Simulate monthly production API costs based on published $/1M tokens.

Save up to 99% with Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking
Monthly Volume50M tokens/mo
Quick Presets:
Token Ratio (In vs Out)70% In / 30% Out
RAG / Search (10% out)Coding / Chat (50% out)
GPT-4.5 Orion$4,875.00 / mo
In: $2625.00Out: $2250.00
Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking$43.00 / mo
In: $7.00Out: $36.00
Estimated Cost Delta

Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking is estimated to save $4,832.00/month ($57,984/year).

Based on 50M tokens (30% gen)

Key Selection Recommendations

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    Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking:Pick Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking when you are optimizing output cost.

Recommended Workload Routing

Repo / coding agentsinsufficient data

Need SWE-bench on both sides.

High-volume chatQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking

Lower output list price ($2.4/1M).

Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient data

Need TTFT on both sides.

Long-document RAGQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking

Larger window (262k).

Screenshots / visionGPT-4.5 Orion

GPT-4.5 Orion is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.

Target WorkloadRecommended PickEvaluation Rationale
Repo / coding agentsinsufficient dataNeed SWE-bench on both sides.
High-volume chatQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B ThinkingLower output list price ($2.4/1M).
Voice / low-latency UIinsufficient dataNeed TTFT on both sides.
Long-document RAGQwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B ThinkingLarger window (262k).
Screenshots / visionGPT-4.5 OrionGPT-4.5 Orion is the side marked multimodal in the catalog.
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OpenAI

GPT-4.5 Orion

Elo 1,540
LiveBench68.5%
SWE-bench71%
Speed60 tok/s
Output cost$150/1M
Alibaba

Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking

Elo n/a
LiveBench—
SWE-bench—
Speed—
Output cost$2.4/1M

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is better overall, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking?
We do not have preference Elo for both models, so we do not declare an overall winner. Compare the metrics that exist.
Which is better at coding, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking?
SWE-bench is missing for at least one model, so we do not rank coding from a single number.
Which is cheaper to run in production?
Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking output tokens are $2.4/1M versus $150/1M. Input prices and retry rates still move the real bill.
Which is faster, GPT-4.5 Orion or Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking?
We do not have TTFT for both models.
Which has the larger context window?
Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking accepts 262k tokens versus 128k.
Can I self-host either model?
Neither model is marked open-weights here. You are comparing hosted APIs.
Are these scores from CompareLLM’s own evals?
No. V1 aggregates public leaderboards (and optional first-party latency pings). Each cell names its source and date. Read /methodology.
What does preference Elo mean on this page?
Preference Elo is a crowd vote from LMArena / Arena. People see two hidden answers and pick the one they like more. The model that wins more often gets a higher Elo. That means people preferred it — not that it passed a school test. It is not SWE-bench, not accuracy, and not a number we invent. GPT-4.5 Orion and Qwen: Qwen3 VL 30B A3B Thinking Elo cells are dated snapshots from the named source — we do not compute Arena ourselves.

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